{"id":9118,"date":"2025-03-08T22:31:28","date_gmt":"2025-03-08T21:31:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?p=9118"},"modified":"2025-06-21T16:37:47","modified_gmt":"2025-06-21T14:37:47","slug":"petrosedum-forsterianum-orpin-de-forster","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?p=9118","title":{"rendered":"Petrosedum forsterianum. Orpin de Forster"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Il est tr\u00e8s peu recommand\u00e9 d&rsquo;identifier l&rsquo;agr\u00e9gat de sedum rupestre, le genre Petrosedum, sans fleur pleinement \u00e9panouie. Bien que l&rsquo;indice le plus couramment pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 n&rsquo;apparaissent que tr\u00e8s mal ici, il s&rsquo;agit de Petrosedum forsterianum. La raison s&rsquo;explique le plus certainement par le fait que cette ann\u00e9e l\u00e0, il pleut des cordes et des cordes \u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Petit encart donc: en compl\u00e9ment de la pr\u00e9sentation d&rsquo;une esp\u00e8ce pr\u00e9sentant son allure typique, il est parfois int\u00e9ressant de la montrer sous une allure plus ou moins inattendue. C&rsquo;est clairement le cas ici.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size\"><strong>El\u00e9ments de description:<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Petrosedum forsterianum pr\u00e9sente des feuilles toutes sessiles et non spatul\u00e9es, aigues, non verticill\u00e9es sur la tige principale.<br>(les rameaux st\u00e9riles ne sont pas pris dans une gaine, et pr\u00e9sentant par dess\u00e8chement des feuilles nettement filiformes. diff\u00e9rence avec P. amplexicaule)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">L&rsquo;inflorescence pr\u00e9sente des <strong>bract\u00e9es et des fleurs jaunes<\/strong> (<strong>des s\u00e9pales beaucoup plus petits que la corolle<\/strong>).<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"850\" height=\"836\" src=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/bractsIMG_1909.jpg\" alt=\"Petrosedum forsterianum: bract\u00e9es florales\" class=\"wp-image-9120\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/bractsIMG_1909.jpg 850w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/bractsIMG_1909-300x295.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/bractsIMG_1909-768x755.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><br>Les rameaux florif\u00e8res sont plut\u00f4t d\u00e9feuill\u00e9s \u00e0 floraisons.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Les rameaux st\u00e9riles sur ces photos, quant \u00e0 eux, conservent leurs feuilles \u00e0 floraisons sur une large partie de la tige comme c&rsquo;est le cas chez Petrosedum rupestre. En principe, les rameaux st\u00e9riles de P. forsterianum ne conservent que les feuilles du haut, dress\u00e9es les un contre les autres tel un petit chou globuleux. Un peu comme sur la photo ci dessous, mais avec les feuilles bien coll\u00e9es les unes contre les autres comme dans un chou pomm\u00e9 (cet indice couramment montr\u00e9 peut varier avec l&rsquo;hygrom\u00e9trie).<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"850\" height=\"461\" src=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/rejetchoupaschouIMG_1909.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9121\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/rejetchoupaschouIMG_1909.jpg 850w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/rejetchoupaschouIMG_1909-300x163.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/rejetchoupaschouIMG_1909-768x417.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Mais ainsi qu&rsquo;expliqu\u00e9 plus haut, il ne faut sans doute pas s&rsquo;y fier trop vite.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Les <strong>feuilles<\/strong> sont effectivement <strong>planes \u00e0 la face sup\u00e9rieure et ponctu\u00e9es<\/strong>. Ce qui d\u00e9termine Petrosedum forsterianum.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"850\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/feuillesIMG_1910.jpg\" alt=\"Petrosedum forsterianum: feuilles\" class=\"wp-image-9122\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/feuillesIMG_1910.jpg 850w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/feuillesIMG_1910-300x238.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/feuillesIMG_1910-768x610.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Sauf accident de croissance, Petrosedum rupestre et P. forsterianum sont plut\u00f4t \u00e0 tiges fertiles simples, sans rameaux st\u00e9riles ou fleuris sur la tige fertile. Ici sans doute: accident de croissance (une petite cueillette peut-\u00eatre de temps en temps par les passants? Ou plus probablement un effet de phototropie).<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"850\" height=\"971\" src=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/rameauxIMG_1911.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9123\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/rameauxIMG_1911.jpg 850w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/rameauxIMG_1911-263x300.jpg 263w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/rameauxIMG_1911-768x877.jpg 768w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/rameauxIMG_1911-300x343.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Risque de confusions avec les hybrides:<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Noter que chez Petrosedum x brevierei (Petrosedum rupestre par P. forsterianum) les bract\u00e9es semblent se trouver simplement au centre de l&rsquo;inflorescence. Cet hybride est localis\u00e9 un peu plus \u00e0 l&rsquo;est. La photo est prise \u00e0 Felletin, Parc naturel r\u00e9gional de Millevaches.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Noter encore que l&rsquo;aspect assez allong\u00e9, presque filiforme des feuilles (notamment sur rameaux st\u00e9riles) sugg\u00e8re l&rsquo;\u00e9ventuel hybride Petrosedum x hegnaueri (Petrosedum montanum par P. sediforme) \u2026 Mais la r\u00e9gion ne s&rsquo;y pr\u00eaterait que de mani\u00e8re \u00e9trange \u2026 aucun des parents n&rsquo;y \u00e9tant r\u00e9put\u00e9s pr\u00e9sents.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Origine et position taxonomique de Petrosedum forsterianum<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Plante d&rsquo;Europe de l&rsquo;Ouest de climat atlantique.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">La <a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?page_id=8669#chorologie\">chorologie<\/a> propose \u00e9galement P. forsterianum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">[Petrosedum forsterianum = sedum forsterianum]<br>Le genre Petrosedum consid\u00e8re l&rsquo;ancienne section rupestria des sedum.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?s=Saxifragales\">Saxifragales<\/a>&gt;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?s=crassulaceae\">Crassulaceae<\/a>&gt; <a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?s=petrosedum\">Petrosedum<\/a> forsterianum<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Auto \u00e9cologie: Ourlets sableux en situation acide. vieux murs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size\">Habitat: lithophytes des dalles acidophiles planitiaires-collin\u00e9ennes \u00e0 m\u00e9diterran\u00e9ennes. Sedetalia forsteriani Julve 2014 ord. nov. hoc loco<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"683\" src=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_1909-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9124\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_1909-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_1909-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_1909-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_1909-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_1909-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/IMG_1909-850x567.jpg 850w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>foto ci paccu Millevaches (PNRM)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Il est tr\u00e8s peu recommand\u00e9 d&rsquo;identifier l&rsquo;agr\u00e9gat de sedum rupestre, le genre Petrosedum, sans fleur pleinement \u00e9panouie. Bien que l&rsquo;indice le plus couramment pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 n&rsquo;apparaissent que tr\u00e8s mal ici, il s&rsquo;agit de Petrosedum forsterianum. La raison s&rsquo;explique le plus certainement par le fait que cette ann\u00e9e l\u00e0, il pleut des cordes et des cordes \u2026&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":9119,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[705,1117],"tags":[1116],"class_list":["post-9118","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-crassulaceae","category-petrosedum-forsterianum","tag-orpin-de-forster"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Petrosedum forsterianum. 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