{"id":5345,"date":"2024-01-16T15:21:46","date_gmt":"2024-01-16T14:21:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?p=5345"},"modified":"2025-06-21T16:49:42","modified_gmt":"2025-06-21T14:49:42","slug":"myosotis-sylvatica-aggr-myosotis-des-bois-complexe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?p=5345","title":{"rendered":"Myosotis sylvatica aggr. Myosotis des bois (complexe)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Je d\u00e9die le Forget-me-not \u00e0 Chat-Personne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">(Ici, il s&rsquo;agit \u00e0 l&rsquo;int\u00e9rieur de l&rsquo;agr\u00e9gat, le plus probablement de Myosotis sylvatica)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Corolle bleue soutenue \u00e0 gorge jaune dont l&rsquo;ouverture des p\u00e9tales forme un plan (indice fragile vis \u00e0 vis de <a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?p=6724\">Myosotis arvensis<\/a> car la diff\u00e9rence ne semble pas toujours tr\u00e8s nette, mais fleurs de la plante photographi\u00e9e plut\u00f4t grandes et d&rsquo;un bleu marqu\u00e9)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"850\" height=\"621\" src=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/IMG_20230426_154558BIS.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5347\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/IMG_20230426_154558BIS.jpg 850w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/IMG_20230426_154558BIS-300x219.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/IMG_20230426_154558BIS-768x561.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Les calices sont \u00e0 poils \u00e9tal\u00e9s:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"664\" height=\"519\" src=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/IMG_20230426_154617.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5349\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/IMG_20230426_154617.jpg 664w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/IMG_20230426_154617-300x234.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 664px) 100vw, 664px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Les calices sont de tailles \u00e0 peu pr\u00e8s \u00e9gale jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 un peu plus grande que le tube de la corolle (diff\u00e9rence possible entre M. Sylvatica et M. decumbens, au profit de M. sylvatica).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"850\" height=\"552\" src=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/IMG_20230426_154606.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5348\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/IMG_20230426_154606.jpg 850w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/IMG_20230426_154606-300x195.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/IMG_20230426_154606-768x499.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Feuilles basales \u00e0 limbes d\u00e9currents mais de mani\u00e8re brusque, et laissant la perception du p\u00e9tiole. Indice fragile selon l&rsquo;expression individuelle et ne permettant pas la distinction entre M. sylvatica et M. decumbens, cela d&rsquo;autant que beaucoup de M. sylvatica sont \u00e9chapp\u00e9es de culture. Ici, la position sur un mur sugg\u00e8re en tous cas une anomalie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><br>La diff\u00e9rence entre M. sylvatica et M. decumbens se fait sur le \u00ab\u00a0fruit\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Myosotis decumbens semble pr\u00e9f\u00e9rer des altitudes un petit peu plus \u00e9lev\u00e9es (d&rsquo;au moins 200 m) que celle o\u00f9 se trouve la plante photographi\u00e9e (570 m environ)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Myosotis, parties \u00e0 prendre en photos:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Nucule (la graine), et mesurer<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>port de la plante mature en situation normale.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>la cyme florale en son entier: est-elle feuill\u00e9e?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>calice: pilosit\u00e9 du calice, son ouverture<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>calice en post-floraison<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>pilosit\u00e9 des p\u00e9dicelles, de la tige, des 2 faces des feuilles.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>photographie lat\u00e9rale des fleurs: les limbes des p\u00e9tales sont-ils assez \u00e9tal\u00e9s pour former un plan?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>photographie lat\u00e9rale: rapport de taille p\u00e9dicelle\/calice, calice\/tube floral<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>pour certaines esp\u00e8ces de Myosotis \u00e0 fleurs minuscules, pilosit\u00e9 du tube calicinal (M. spelinicula, et M. minutiflora)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?s=boraginales\">Boraginales<\/a>&gt;<a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?s=boraginaceae\">Boraginaceae<\/a>&gt;&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?s=myosotis\">Myosotis<\/a> sylvatica aggr.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading has-medium-font-size\"><strong>Ecologie<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Auto\u00e9cologies:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Myosotis sylvatica: jardins pour les cultivars, et autour de ces jardins. Ourlets et prairies m\u00e9sohygrophiles. Circaeo lutetianae &#8211; Stachyetalia sylvaticae Passarge 1967<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Myosotis decumbens (altitude en principe \u00e0 partir de 800 m): Sous-bois, m\u00e9gaphorbiaies, prairies subalpines<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Communaut\u00e9s:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Myosotis sylvatica: ourlets internes et clairi\u00e8res vivaces m\u00e9dio-europ\u00e9ennes, eutrophiles, m\u00e9sohygrophiles. Circaeo lutetianae &#8211; Stachyetalia sylvaticae Passarge 1967<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Myosotis decumbens: m\u00e9gaphorbiaies subalpines, hygrophiles, m\u00e9sotrophiles, basophiles, des adrets. Adenostylion alliariae Braun-Blanquet 1926<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?p=6724\">Myosotis arvensis<\/a>: ourlets th\u00e9rophytiques vernaux, nitrophiles, m\u00e9dio-europ\u00e9ens, planitiaires. Anisantho sterilis &#8211; Cardaminetalia hirsutae de Foucault 2009<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lieu o\u00f9 la plante a \u00e9t\u00e9 photographi\u00e9e: Parc naturel r\u00e9gional de Millevaches (PNRM).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Je d\u00e9die le Forget-me-not \u00e0 Chat-Personne. (Ici, il s&rsquo;agit \u00e0 l&rsquo;int\u00e9rieur de l&rsquo;agr\u00e9gat, le plus probablement de Myosotis sylvatica) Corolle bleue soutenue \u00e0 gorge jaune dont l&rsquo;ouverture des p\u00e9tales forme un plan (indice fragile vis \u00e0 vis de Myosotis arvensis car la diff\u00e9rence ne semble pas toujours tr\u00e8s nette, mais fleurs de la plante photographi\u00e9e&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":5346,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[222,864],"tags":[863],"class_list":["post-5345","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-boraginaceae","category-myosotis-sylvatica-aggr","tag-myosotis-des-bois"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Myosotis sylvatica aggr. 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