{"id":1964,"date":"2022-08-28T09:45:08","date_gmt":"2022-08-28T07:45:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?p=1964"},"modified":"2024-11-16T15:19:52","modified_gmt":"2024-11-16T14:19:52","slug":"datura-stramonium-datura-stramoine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?p=1964","title":{"rendered":"Datura stramonium. Datura stramoine"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Nyctinastie? Les fleurs semblent s’ouvrir fonction d’une certaine dose d’obscurit\u00e9 (temps vraiment tr\u00e8s couvert, bien frais pour la saison, lors des prises de vues). <\/p>\n\n\n\n

-Les fruits ne sont pas pench\u00e9s (comme c’est le cas de Datura wrightii, et de Datura innoxia);<\/p>\n\n\n\n

-La plante est glabrescente ( \u00e0 la diff\u00e9rence de Datura wrightii et de Datura innoxia ayant des poils; Datura innoxia ayant des poils plus longs)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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-La capsule montre des \u00e9pines \u00e0 bases plus r\u00e9guli\u00e8res que celles de Datura ferox. Les capsules de datura ferox tendent \u00e0 avoir des \u00e9pines \u00e0 bases plus fines vers le bas du fruit, et plus \u00e9paisses en haut. Les \u00e9pines de Datura ferox ont une base plus large. Elles sont moins nombreuses, semblent plus longues: elles sont d’une taille sup\u00e9rieure au demi diam\u00e8tre de la capsule. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

-Les dents des feuilles de Datura stramonium sont l\u00e9g\u00e8rement mucron\u00e9. Parfois donn\u00e9 comme acumin\u00e9es*. Enfin, Datura ferox est beaucoup plus m\u00e9ridionale.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

(noter que datura stramonium var tatula pr\u00e9sentent des fleurs mauves p\u00e2les)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

* Acumin\u00e9: se terminant en pointe. Si la pointe est plus petite, il s’agit d’un mucron. Ici les dents des larges des feuilles se terminent en pointe brusquement r\u00e9tr\u00e9cies \u00e0 leurs bases. Ces pointes sont discr\u00e8tes, je trouve sur les feuilles de cette Datura, mais la comparaison est \u00ab\u00a0parlante\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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2 Vari\u00e9t\u00e9s sont parfois cit\u00e9es mais sans valeur taxonomique, \u00e9ventuellement des formes (?), la var. tatula \u00e0 p\u00e9tales color\u00e9s, et la var. inermis (semblant = var. godronii) laquelle pr\u00e9sente des fruits sans \u00e9pines.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Solanales<\/a>> Solanaceae<\/a>>Datura<\/a> stramonium<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Friches annuelles, nitrophiles, thermophiles, eurym\u00e9diterran\u00e9ennes. Chenopodietalia muralis Braun-Blanquet in Braun-Blanquet, Gajewski, Wraber & Walas 1936.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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L’origine de la stramoine est impr\u00e9cise: Am\u00e9rique.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Plante toxique. Paul Jovet regrettait, en 1923, que dans l’est de Paris, les feuilles de cette plante soient fum\u00e9es en succ\u00e9dan\u00e9 de tabac.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Des daturas sont utilis\u00e9s rituellement. Ainsi que d’autres solanaceae, dont primordialement le tabac (ci-dessous: tabac blanc \u00e0 vis\u00e9e ornementale, Nicotiana sylvestris ais\u00e9ment reconnaissable \u00e0 sa grappe de fleurs tr\u00e8s compacte.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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La brugmensie (ici, Brugmensia aurea) est tr\u00e8s notamment recherch\u00e9e pour certains importants rituels dans les Andes. Cette photo a \u00e9t\u00e9 prise avant qu’une loi parmi les stupides et d\u00e9plac\u00e9es qui soit, soit promulgu\u00e9e par des politiciens manifestement dot\u00e9s d’un cerveau de Lamproie. Toute plante ayant un caract\u00e8re potentiellement chamanique est d\u00e9sormais interdite en France. C’est faire bien peu de cas de tous les champignons notamment que l’on trouve avec grande facilit\u00e9 dans notre environnement, lesquels sont pour certains bien plus dangereux (ie: Amanita muscaria*, Claviceps pupurea …); Enfin quelle fille, quel gars ici un peu normalement constitu\u00e9.e (alors que nous n’aimons pas \u00e7\u00e0) se prendrait comme projet essentiel pour sa vie la consommation, au mieux, d’un cocktail de puissants \u00e9m\u00e9tiques (Ayahuasca, donc: pas d’autre danger que la d\u00e9shydratation) ???<\/p>\n\n\n\n

*Amanita muscaria est utilis\u00e9 dans des rituels chamaniques sur une aire moins que n\u00e9gligeable. Sa pr\u00e9paration est assez d\u00e9licate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Des plantes ayant une telle importance ethnologique, au regard de l’humanit\u00e9 et de son histoire, devraient pouvoir donner lieux \u00e0 mus\u00e9es, m\u00eame \u00e0 titre priv\u00e9 (comme l’on s’ach\u00e8te des \u0153uvres d’art, on peut vouloir son mus\u00e9e anthropologique).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Photo suivante: quand le Seripigari a vu \u00e7\u00e0, il \u00e9tait tellement \u00e9pat\u00e9 qu’il en a pris une bouture pour l’emporter chez lui dans la montagne …<\/p>\n\n\n\n

*<\/strong>La photo ci dessous, du Brugmensia arborea (Lima), est sous droit. Prise par Ernersto, Lolo, Arias (Merci \u00e0 lui!); l’ast\u00e9risque rouge indique donc simplement que la photo est sous droit :<\/p>\n\n\n\n

(noter le groupe de feuilles de fabaceae en haut de la photo vers le centre-droit, un Poinciana dont je tiens les graines pour toxiques: elles seraient curatives contre l’asthme. Je ne sais quel est le jeu de la chandelle … Le Poinciana, Caesalpinia pulcherrima, a \u00e9t\u00e9 tenu par les colons britanniques au Br\u00e9sil, ainsi qu’aux Philippines comme une abortive<\/a>: les graines. Il s’agit d’une Fabaceae qui manque d’\u00e9l\u00e9gance \u00e0 l’absorption.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Du c\u00f4t\u00e9 de l’anthropologie\/philologie, il vaudra mieux lire les travaux d’Esteban Arias qui m’explique cependant que la Brugmensia se dit saaro en Matisgenka … Il y a alors un lien avec un oiseau noir \u00e0 bec jaune (dont je doute qu’il s’agisse d’un merle) et qui se nomme Nosaaro. Nosaaro s’enivre des fleurs de brugmensia et chante en fin d’\u00e9t\u00e9 alors qu’un autre arbre li\u00e9 dans la mythologie, (\u00e9galement?) \u00e0 fleurs jaunes, et r\u00e9pondant au nom de shimaashiri cesse justement de s’\u00e9panouir (shimaashiri: le d\u00e9part des poissons; shimaa=poisson. Quitte \u00e0 dire que shiri \u00e9voque le mouvement).<\/p>\n\n\n\n

On gage en tous cas, que la po\u00e9sie apparente ne s’apparente pas \u00e0 un simple folklorisme. Cela ne ressemblerait pas trop \u00e0 la profondeur et \u00e0 la vivacit\u00e9 spirituelle de nos cousins d’Am\u00e9riques.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Matsiguenka, je vous salue!<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Lieu(x) o\u00f9 la\/les plante(s) est\/sont photographi\u00e9e (s): Datura \u00e0 Montreuil sous bois, Nicotiana: sans objet, horticole, \u00e0 Bagnolet, Brugmensia aurea, ornementale, \u00e0 Bagnolet, Brugmensia arborea \u00e0 Lima<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Nyctinastie? Les fleurs semblent s’ouvrir fonction d’une certaine dose d’obscurit\u00e9 (temps vraiment tr\u00e8s couvert, bien frais pour la saison, lors des prises de vues). -Les fruits ne sont pas pench\u00e9s (comme c’est le cas de Datura wrightii, et de Datura innoxia); -La plante est glabrescente ( \u00e0 la diff\u00e9rence de Datura wrightii et de Datura…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1965,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[480,475],"tags":[479],"class_list":["post-1964","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-datura-stramonium","category-solanaceae","tag-datura-stramoine"],"yoast_head":"\nDatura stramonium. 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