{"id":1399,"date":"2022-05-27T13:17:54","date_gmt":"2022-05-27T11:17:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?p=1399"},"modified":"2025-06-15T16:21:20","modified_gmt":"2025-06-15T14:21:20","slug":"tragopogon-pratensis-subsp-pratensis-salsifis-des-pres","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?p=1399","title":{"rendered":"Tragopogon pratensis subsp. pratensis. Salsifis des pr\u00e9s."},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Trapogon pratensis est \u00e0 fleurs jaunes. Son p\u00e9doncule est +- enfl\u00e9 sous le capitule.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Mais sa largeur n&rsquo;atteint pas la largeur de ce dernier; il est peu compressible, la lacune \u00e0 l&rsquo;int\u00e9rieur du p\u00e9doncule est faible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">(Diff\u00e9rence avec <a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?p=10122\">Tragopogon dubius<\/a> dont la largeur du p\u00e9doncule \u00e9gale \u00e0 son sommet la largeur de la base du capitule: tr\u00e8s compressible)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">D\u00e9termination: Tragopogon pratensis<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"633\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-27.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8117\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-27.png 633w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-27-185x300.png 185w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-27-300x485.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 633px) 100vw, 633px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">D\u00e9termination de la sous-esp\u00e8ce; indice 1<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Si:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">les fleurs ligul\u00e9es du capitule terminal sont en moyenne plus courtes ou \u00e0 peu pr\u00e8s \u00e9gale \u00e0 l&rsquo;involucre (notamment capitules lat\u00e9raux), et marge des bract\u00e9es involucrales plut\u00f4t rouges.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"850\" height=\"887\" src=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-28.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8119\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-28.png 850w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-28-287x300.png 287w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-28-768x801.png 768w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-28-300x313.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">D\u00e9termination de la sous-esp\u00e8ce, second indice \u00e0 prendre en compte:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Et si les fleurs du centre sont rayonnantes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">(diff\u00e9rence avec T. pratensis subsp. minor, dont les fleurs centrales sont non rayonnantes et les externes beaucoup moins longues, et m\u00eame tr\u00e8s courtes &#8212; fleur sommitale \u00e0 ligules externes alors tr\u00e8s largement d\u00e9pass\u00e9es par l&rsquo;involucre.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"850\" height=\"854\" src=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-29.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8120\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-29.png 850w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-29-300x301.png 300w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-29-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-29-768x772.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 850px) 100vw, 850px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Alors il s&rsquo;agit de Tragopogon pratensis subsp. pratensis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Sachant que la sous-esp\u00e8ce orientalis a des fleurs ligul\u00e9es externes d\u00e9passant en moyenne l&rsquo;involucre. Que sur les capitules lat\u00e9raux, ces fleurs externes peuvent le d\u00e9passer plus franchement. Que les marges des bract\u00e9es involucrale de cette sous-esp\u00e8ce peuvent \u00eatre blanches. Que la sous-esp\u00e8ce orientalis pr\u00e9sente des anth\u00e8res orn\u00e9es d&rsquo;une strie.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Autre remarque pour la photo ci-dessous: avant l&rsquo;anth\u00e8se, la d\u00e9termination est incertaine: peut-\u00eatre Tragopogon pratensis, mais alors, sous esp\u00e8ce ? Probablement la pratensis du fait du rouge aux marges des bract\u00e9es involucrales.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">(Tragopogon porrifolius est une \u00e9chapp\u00e9e de culture; la r\u00e9gion exclue a priori les autres esp\u00e8ces.)<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-31.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8122\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-31.png 768w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-31-225x300.png 225w, https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/image-31-300x400.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Concernant d&rsquo;autres salsifis:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Tragopogon crocifolius a des fleurs jaunes et des feuilles lin\u00e9aires. Tragopogon angustifolius est peu dot\u00e9s en fleurs ligul\u00e9es, elles sont mauves; Tragopogon porrifolius, mieux dot\u00e9s que le pr\u00e9c\u00e9dent en fleurs ligul\u00e9es mauves, pr\u00e9sente des bract\u00e9es plus ou moins rabattues vers le bas \u00e0 maturit\u00e9; Tragopogon eriospermus pr\u00e9sente des fleurs plus claires.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Une erreur morphologique est signal\u00e9e concernant nos salsifis des pr\u00e9s qui ne devraient avoir que 5 bract\u00e9es quand ils en portent 8 dans l&rsquo;hexagone &#8230; L&rsquo;involuvcre fran\u00e7ais \u00e9tant plus riche, il y a une petite chance de r\u00e9vision taxonomique du c\u00f4t\u00e9 des salsifis des pr\u00e9s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-small-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?s=asterales\">Asterales<\/a>&gt;<a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?s=asteraceae\">Asteraceae<\/a>&gt;<a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?s=Cichorioideae\">Cichorioideae<\/a>&gt;<a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?s=Cichorieae\">Cichorieae<\/a>&gt;<a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?s=tragopogon\">Tragopogon<\/a> pratensis subsp. orientalis<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Le saslsifis des pr\u00e9s semble plus acidicline et le salsifis d&rsquo;orient plus basicline.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Tragopogon pratensis subsp. pratensis: Prairies m\u00e9sohydriques fauch\u00e9es, m\u00e9sothermes, planitiaires \u00e0 montagnardes inf\u00e9rieures. <a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?page_id=3348\/#Arrhenatherion-eliatoris\">Arrhenatherion elatioris subsp. elatioris Luquet 1926<\/a>. RANG: ALLIANCE<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Tragopogon pratensis subsp. orientalis: prairies m\u00e9sohydriques, fauch\u00e9es, planitiaires \u00e0 montagnardes. <a href=\"https:\/\/lecompagnonrouge.fr\/?page_id=3348\/#Arrhenatheretalia-elatioris\">Arrhenatheretalia elatioris subsp. elatioris<\/a> T\u00fcxen 1931. RANG (SUPERIEUR): ORDRE; plante plus m\u00e9ridionale.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tragopogon pratensis subsp. minor: friches vivaces m\u00e9sohydriques, m\u00e9dio-europ\u00e9ennes. Dauco carotae subsp. carotae &#8211; Melilotion albi G\u00f6rs 1966<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lieu(x) o\u00f9 la plante est photographi\u00e9e: sud de la Creuse, PNRM<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Trapogon pratensis est \u00e0 fleurs jaunes. Son p\u00e9doncule est +- enfl\u00e9 sous le capitule. Mais sa largeur n&rsquo;atteint pas la largeur de ce dernier; il est peu compressible, la lacune \u00e0 l&rsquo;int\u00e9rieur du p\u00e9doncule est faible. (Diff\u00e9rence avec Tragopogon dubius dont la largeur du p\u00e9doncule \u00e9gale \u00e0 son sommet la largeur de la base du&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1401,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[12,198,197,349],"tags":[348],"class_list":["post-1399","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-asteraceae","category-cichorieae","category-cichorioideae","category-tragopogon-pratensis-subsp-pratensis","tag-salsifis-des-pres"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Tragopogon pratensis subsp. pratensis. 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